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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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hello and welcome to the skeptic zone

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episode number 415 for the second of

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October 2016 Richard Saunders here with

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you from Sydney Australia looking out

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the window what a nice sunny day it is

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and all you people in New South Wales

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enjoying the long weekend and maybe

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other parts of Australia too i'm not

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sure well i hope the skeptic zone can

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maybe well keep you company on your

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drive back and what an interesting show

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we have for you this week coming up my

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interview with an old friend of mine dr.

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Lynn Kelly who has just released a book

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through allen & unwin called the memory

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code the memory code and as they say

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available at all good book outlets and

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online the memory code and we've we've

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discussed this before on the skeptic

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zone in fact I've interviewed Lynn about

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this oh just a couple of years ago it's

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a subject that's not causing waves in

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their world of academia and ancient

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history it's causing tsunamis it really

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is it's astonishing ah it's a revolution

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you might say well that's how it's

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appearing and like any good skeptic Lynn

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has put her workup for other people in

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the field to attack it to see if there

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are holes in the plot so to speak and so

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far it's standing up very well what's it

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all about how our ancestors in ancient

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cultures and other cultures around the

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world remembered things without a

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written language and not just mundane

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everyday things they remembered a

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staggering amount of vital knowledge

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family history when to plant crops where

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this animal lives all sorts of things

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it's a fascinating book and as I say

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it's creating tsunamis throughout the

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world of ancient history and academia

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join me in a few minutes when I have a

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quick chat tool in Kelly about this book

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and incidentally we'll be giving away a

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signed copy of Lynn Kelly's book the

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memory code at the upcoming skeptic zone

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live more details a bit later on in the

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show then after the break

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it's a little less skeptical road trip

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we jump into the skeptic mobile may nod

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myself our good friends Lara and Jessica

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and we head off to kuchulu for the

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Australian paranormal and spiritual Expo

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now it does skeptics good every now and

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then to go along to one of these you'll

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often hear us talking about the mind

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body spirit or mind-body wallet Expo in

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fact there's one coming up bum very soon

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towards the end of this month or very

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early next month in Sydney I think I'll

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be certainly going along to that it does

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skeptics good because the last thing we

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want to be our armchair skeptics we need

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to get out there and see what's really

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going on and speak to these people which

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is exactly what Manor does today he

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speaks to people at the paranormal

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expert to get their point of view their

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opinions and for us it's a way to look

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how do they think this what's led them

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like being voyeurs voyeurs into the mind

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and ratbags calm he'll be there I may

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not also catches up with Pete banks who

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runs the expo Alex chaos is there and he

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society and also carry mcgill dre who

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has a crystal healing bed no not for

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people and thanks to Lara and Jess who a

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great company on the trip now before we

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get stuck into the show and update an

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update from last week I think we brought

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the film vax my Andrew Wakefield now due

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to a very negative publicity they said

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festival which they did then we

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Hank at reasonable Hank com lots of

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detailed information there but it's

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cynical critic of the film that he'd

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the film this is of course ridiculous I

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importantly our friend David Gorski a

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critique takedown of the movie and i'll

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critics of the film especially here in

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conspiracy theory no shock there and he

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send 23 seconds into the film Dell big

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of parents all telling the same story my

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postings by people behind the push to

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disturbing now there are a few more

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that at the end of this episode but for

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now but for now it's time for me to run

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song for guy by Elton John alright I've

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done it not a very musical brain not a

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musical brain but you haven't got a

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brain Lynn Kelly it's delightful to see

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you once again you're up here in Sydney

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to give a talk for the skeptics night

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about your latest book very exciting

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it's a wonderful book and Wow has it

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been creating waves how's that all going

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beaming of course your book is the

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memory code how long has that been out

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it's been in the pipeline I've been

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talking to skeptics and having them

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polish the theories for nearly 10 years

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now so it's lovely to be back among

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skeptics again because that's where I

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belong you sort of it really takes a big

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chunk of your life doesn't it i'm

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putting the other such a body of work

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intended to do I had quite a simple

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project for my PhD another science book

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Stonehenge and a new analysis of the way

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indigenous cultures memorize information

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obsession but it meant I had to go down

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the formal academic path the formal

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academic book before I could go public

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if you're going to say I've solved the

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mystery of Stonehenge you have to test

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have it independently tested because I

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I have seen something that others hadn't

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a bad natural memory I start ask the

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memorize all this stuff it's a wonderful

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point it's a wonderful point and in the

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book there's a section where you talk

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about memorizing a deck of cards yeah

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and that's that seems somewhat is a

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parlor trick but it does make a really

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good point doesn't it yes if you give a

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character to each of the cards then the

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parlor trick is a shuffled deck you make

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up a story and can remember the order I

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can't do anything fast but that my deck

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of cards i use two of them 130 cards or

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luck so use tarot deck as well gives me

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a set of characters and that's what

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mythology is is a set of characters

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whose stories they act out their

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extremely vivid vulgar grotesque over

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the top because that makes information

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memorable we all remember stories from

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childhood all of us remember the story

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of Little Red Riding Hood Hansel and

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Gretel and the list is endless because

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we heard these stories when we were kids

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and they stuck and the fact you learned

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at school how many do you recall of

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those

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but if Little Red Riding Hood talked

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about I'll get away from the wolf if I

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eat the red berry but don't eat the

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blackberry because it'll kill you that

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sort of thing and that's what mythology

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does it encodes rational information in

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vivid stories and bad but you you

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explain it so wonderfully well and we're

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looking forward to the talk tonight of

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course and folks coming to skeptics in

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the pub here in Sydney on the sixth of

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October we'll be giving away a copy of

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your book Lynn will be giving up as a

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special price so that might be an extra

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incentive then where can people find out

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more about your book it's available in

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every book shop be published in the UK

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and us in February and then in check and

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Chinese those rights have been sold

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already in a second Chinese yes they're

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the first foreign translation rights but

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also my website if you spell my name

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correctly and Google you get straight to

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my website of course it'll be in the

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show notes but that's exciting just to

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think that your works being translated

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and you won't have to in the back in

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mind I think you'd probably wonder oh I

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wonder how the translation is I wonder

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if it's a good translation or they're

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missing bits and pieces you can't know

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the skeptics guide was skeptics guide to

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the paranormal was translated into

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Russian it looks lovely one of your

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early book yes and I can see my name I

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have no idea what the rest is but yeah

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and to get your words out there it just

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really makes it just feels wonderful I'm

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sure it does welding congratulations

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once again on the book and that we

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better head in because I think they're

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just about to call for dinner okay

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the skeptic zone live a special live

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Occidental hotel in Sydney just near

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winded station 43 York Street this is

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part of skeptics in the pub join me in

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see you there at the skeptic zone live

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Thursday the sixth of October at the

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here's may not spooky action at the

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it's a pretty special day here on the

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skeptic zone Richard Saunders is driving

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well the skeptic mobile here he used to

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have a Batmobile we'd skeptic written on

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the side of it that was fantastic and

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wore a cape but now it's the high on d

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of truth the hardy of truth I on die of

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truth and we're on the way to the casula

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powerhouse because we're really into AC

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power generation for start I can't get

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enough of it but Richard you're going to

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go there and your job today is to

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completely harsh people's mellow and

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make them cry I'm my mission today is to

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go to this paranormal their Expo and

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just wreck everybody's day being a

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really bad skeptic I love it when people

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give you the evil eye that's great like

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you walk past may go that's that guy

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that said the bad thing about the

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psychic speed it's true actually now of

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course we're not out there to wreck

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anybody's David last time we were there

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with the skeptics had a table of an

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information table which was good and a

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woman came up and basically abused us

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for online harassment and you get people

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like that who cannot understand the

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skeptical point of view at all

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yeah but yeah I mean it isn't it is a

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day where you're gonna check a bit it

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out of the door when you go in well I do

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I mean this is like people like to paint

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skeptics in a very cartoon fashion put

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us into a pigeon hole I mean I don't go

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to these things to wreck people stay and

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to complain and then make a fuss

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although having said that once or twice

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I will if I think something is

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particularly dangerous like people

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selling water for sun tan lotion for

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example which I've seen again I point

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you to the dirty disbelievers it was

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only six or seven episodes made and we

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had an episode where we called it don't

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harsh my mellow man it was all about at

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what point do you intervene with people

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and I guess if they're people if they're

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selling something that's going to cause

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cancer yes yeah you have to you have to

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realize it by and large arguing with

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people at these things is a very little

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value but sometimes you have to speak up

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absolutely yeah and sometimes you have

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to bring extra people in case your

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dealings not loud enough we've got two

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other people in the high and I have

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truth who we got here Jessica and Lara

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and how long have you been in the

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skeptical movement or of a skeptical

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nature probably since about 2009

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following all the podcasts and stuff but

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i think i've had a skeptical nature

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since i was young it was encouraged by

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my dad is it because you're a teacher

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that you're more skeptical um no I don't

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think it is really cuz in the past i was

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actually and I did believe a lot of the

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stuff which I now find laughable and so

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it's a lot like one with all the what

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what one what one oh no all of it no I'm

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highly embarrassed to say yeah lots of

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it I think he was after watching the

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x-files when I was younger oh yeah yeah

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oh look and that disappointing last

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episode in the last season I really

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didn't like ratting wash that I didn't

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watch the last few series i have to say

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oh there's good except for the last

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episode there so what are you going to

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be on the lookout for today so I'm quite

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interested in

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energy healing all that sort of stuff so

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I'm going to see what what they've got

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on offer there if it's not too expensive

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i might pay up for one just just for

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interests sake we'll see how we go and

439
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watch your bug bear um I've not been to

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one of these before and I honestly I'm

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not sure what to expect so I'm just

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going to kind of take everything in seat

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see how things go you're very patient

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person do making veiled and put up with

445
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much one hundred percent yeah on a

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teacher so I'm very very patient yeah

447
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just want to take it all in I'm excited

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to see this blue body that we've just

449
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discovered the teddy bear tell us about

450
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it and teddy bear which apparently can

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sense if there's ghosts and talk to them

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but I'm not too sure about the details

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so I'll go and ask them about that when

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we get there I'll of course look I I

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don't normally talk to the people who

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are getting the psychic readings because

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that they tend to be very serious the

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people that are go and get psychic

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readings so I might stay away from the

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Melissa some people that are having a

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bit of a giggle and laugh because they

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all seem very serious I will probably

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spend a bit of time with the sky

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watchers the people that have a lot of

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time filming with night-vision cameras

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at west of sydney and see very

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interesting things and also there'll be

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a lot of ghost hunters and there were a

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lot of technology on sale this you'll

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see spirit box have you seen a spirit

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box before no what's the spirit box um

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it's sort of like a random channel

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selector so it'll go up and down the

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electromagnetic frequency stopping every

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once in a while and making a noise and

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you can often um infer some sort of

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speech pattern from it because indeed

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some of the things that stops on our am

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and FM radio stations in fact main are

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you and I came across one of these

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spirit boxes a couple of years ago when

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we did a ghost to it which is a are

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which we recorded for the skipping town

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but just for the benefit of listeners

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right now let me edit in an example of

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so there you go it's it's like a radio

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which is quickly changing channels um

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and I think it would be a quite prone to

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audio peridot Leah good old audio

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paradorn yes look it up folks hmm so I'm

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going to go and check it out there and

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I'm hoping that there's some new stuff

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there I'm really hoping there's going to

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be some new development in the world of

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ghost hunting or something like that

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what it goes to do you mean yeah that

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would be new well the thing is I

498
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actually some of the spirit boxes can

499
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actually they you have a class a or a

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Class B C or D EVP electronic voice

501
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phenomenon yeah yeah oh well are you

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saying it EVP is not a real thing

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Richard are you saying that people in

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the other realm that have passed over

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can't manipulate the electromagnetic

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frequency I don't have to you just said

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it I look we haven't even got inside the

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powerhouse for the great expo today and

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we've already met someone who's okay and

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yeah we're talking about EVPs and voice

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boxes earlier in the car and you've

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actually had a positive experience with

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the some other entity would you like to

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explain what you got from the spirit box

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well i was actually in nevada and we did

516
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we did went to good Springs Nevada where

517
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Carole Lombard used to live with if

518
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anybody realizes she's actually Clark

519
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Gable's wife and she just had a charity

520
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event and they didn't know whether she

521
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wanted to fly home or she wanted to

522
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catch train home and they decided to

523
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toss a toss a coin and they decided that

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the plane was way they're going to go

525
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and it was late at night and the plane

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crashed into the mountains behind good

527
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Springs Nevada killing on board Carole

528
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Lombard and her mother and cleave in

529
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Clark Gable without a wife

530
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and in this bar in good Springs Nevada

531
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they have a lot of paranormal events

532
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happen in there and they bought out a

533
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voice box and we actually got to talk to

534
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her Carole Lombard came through and was

535
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asking me different questions about who

536
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I was and what my why my voice was funny

537
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because it did not sound normal and she

538
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didn't like me she didn't want to talk

539
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:57,410
to me and how hard was it to understand

540
00:24:01,210 --> 00:23:59,840
because a spirit box chops and changes a

541
00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:01,220
lot there's a lot of white noise alright

542
00:24:05,310 --> 00:24:02,510
so it was actually quite clear quite

543
00:24:07,630 --> 00:24:05,320
clear and she was quite interesting and

544
00:24:09,310 --> 00:24:07,640
then we had another one come through we

545
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:09,320
actually had these little boxes that

546
00:24:13,150 --> 00:24:11,570
actually go across and if it goes across

547
00:24:14,770 --> 00:24:13,160
to read it actually has somebody there

548
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:14,780
and they've actually got one of these

549
00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:16,610
particular entities there we don't sure

550
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:18,710
who she is she's a lady an old bar maid

551
00:24:22,750 --> 00:24:20,090
that used to come and she didn't like me

552
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:22,760
she kept moving my glass that the

553
00:24:27,460 --> 00:24:24,170
spirits don't seem to get on with you

554
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:27,470
well I was Australian there America what

555
00:24:33,220 --> 00:24:29,570
more can you avoid a sound of funny yes

556
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:33,230
so it was very interesting and quite we

557
00:24:36,490 --> 00:24:34,970
actually went out and we walked through

558
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:36,500
Goodsprings because it's one of the most

559
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:39,170
haunted towns in Nevada and got a lot of

560
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:41,570
orbs coming up and there's actually a

561
00:24:45,690 --> 00:24:43,250
house there that there's a grumpy old

562
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:45,700
ghost there and he doesn't like people

563
00:24:50,140 --> 00:24:48,530
and have you ever met new spirits to do

564
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:50,150
seem to get on well with people well

565
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:51,890
I've actually got a spirit in my house

566
00:24:56,890 --> 00:24:55,250
oh okay so that'd really spooked me oh

567
00:24:58,360 --> 00:24:56,900
and by the way what are you looking

568
00:25:00,250 --> 00:24:58,370
forward to today the Expos there

569
00:25:01,630 --> 00:25:00,260
something seeing different things and

570
00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:01,640
Charma hasn't wants me to get me a boo

571
00:25:09,930 --> 00:25:05,510
bear ah a book and now we're looking at

572
00:25:13,270 --> 00:25:09,940
the car now that is a bear that detects

573
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:13,280
anomalies text anomalies and it takes it

574
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:14,450
actually when I read up on it actually

575
00:25:20,260 --> 00:25:17,330
if it time to text say anonymou Lee as

576
00:25:23,170 --> 00:25:20,270
you would call it it actually asks

577
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:23,180
questions and who it is and why it's

578
00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:26,570
there mm-hmm so it could be a bit freaky

579
00:25:30,250 --> 00:25:28,310
I mean someone like me I haven't got a

580
00:25:31,390 --> 00:25:30,260
strong you know nervous condition when

581
00:25:33,250 --> 00:25:31,400
it comes to Skye think that freaked me

582
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:33,260
out I'm actually partially psychic as

583
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:35,690
well okay and I can actually smell dead

584
00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:38,090
people I'll go about say are you

585
00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:40,370
clairaudient but you smell that that's

586
00:25:45,820 --> 00:25:43,760
um ok so what messages can you get that

587
00:25:46,940 --> 00:25:45,830
work as I imagined being dead or the

588
00:25:49,310 --> 00:25:46,950
smell would not be a good thing

589
00:25:52,610 --> 00:25:49,320
well it actually it's really the truth

590
00:25:55,340 --> 00:25:52,620
there is I was in Tasmania on a ghost

591
00:25:57,860 --> 00:25:55,350
tour and we went to go for it yet we

592
00:26:00,080 --> 00:25:57,870
were in the old courthouse and they've

593
00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:00,090
got this room that they all send the

594
00:26:03,649 --> 00:26:01,710
people in to try and scare them first

595
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:03,659
and I don't fall for those things

596
00:26:07,220 --> 00:26:05,970
anymore and so we're waiting outside

597
00:26:08,690 --> 00:26:07,230
waiting for the girls to all screen

598
00:26:10,009 --> 00:26:08,700
because you know this is the toilet

599
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:10,019
where everybody you know got energy than

600
00:26:14,029 --> 00:26:11,850
there and then we walked into where they

601
00:26:16,340 --> 00:26:14,039
all caught where the old judge used to

602
00:26:17,659 --> 00:26:16,350
be before he went to court and as I

603
00:26:21,769 --> 00:26:17,669
walked in through the door I got the

604
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:21,779
smoke of a pipe and tobacco pipe and it

605
00:26:25,850 --> 00:26:24,210
just been lit up and I went back out no

606
00:26:27,620 --> 00:26:25,860
since the lady us at all said did the

607
00:26:30,110 --> 00:26:27,630
judge used to smoke a pipe and she said

608
00:26:32,210 --> 00:26:30,120
how did you know that and I said to well

609
00:26:33,889 --> 00:26:32,220
he's just lit up the tobacco pipe and

610
00:26:35,299 --> 00:26:33,899
she's rich guys are can you tell me

611
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:35,309
where he died where he used to duck ways

612
00:26:38,690 --> 00:26:37,440
to be a nice interested yes I'm the

613
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:38,700
lounge chair over there she goes how do

614
00:26:42,379 --> 00:26:39,840
you know that was like I felt his heart

615
00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:42,389
beat on in my hand and then we went into

616
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:43,769
another room into the court and as we're

617
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:44,970
going into the court I've got this

618
00:26:49,220 --> 00:26:47,760
overpowering smell of lavender and I

619
00:26:51,169 --> 00:26:49,230
said to this woman I said I don't like

620
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:51,179
your perfume please go away and she said

621
00:26:54,769 --> 00:26:53,250
I'm not wearing any I went oh ok and her

622
00:26:56,299 --> 00:26:54,779
daughter said my mother doesn't wear any

623
00:26:57,470 --> 00:26:56,309
previous is allergic to it and so I had

624
00:26:59,629 --> 00:26:57,480
lavender and then once went the

625
00:27:02,180 --> 00:26:59,639
courthouse you lit up the pipe again so

626
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:02,190
it's a very unusual to head because it

627
00:27:08,419 --> 00:27:05,850
can be it's not easy to take the smells

628
00:27:10,460 --> 00:27:08,429
and a lot of people have told me it's a

629
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:10,470
very unique thing to have when ghosts

630
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:12,510
are available it certainly is well

631
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:14,159
thanks for sharing your stories with us

632
00:27:17,419 --> 00:27:15,600
and have a good day here it ain't just

633
00:27:18,590 --> 00:27:17,429
getting going yes have a good day selves

634
00:27:21,980 --> 00:27:18,600
thank you thank you good luck he'll buy

635
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:21,990
oh and we're outdoors right now at the

636
00:27:25,159 --> 00:27:24,000
Casilla powerhouse now well what stall

637
00:27:27,169 --> 00:27:25,169
have you got here this is the app you

638
00:27:30,110 --> 00:27:27,179
saw Australian paranormal phenomenon

639
00:27:31,580 --> 00:27:30,120
investigators we run the vet expert all

640
00:27:33,289 --> 00:27:31,590
right you know what lets you got a great

641
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:33,299
day for it and it's only early in people

642
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:34,799
here already that's it's it's beautiful

643
00:27:37,940 --> 00:27:36,330
day for it isn't it it is really nice

644
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:37,950
now we were just looking at a couple of

645
00:27:42,110 --> 00:27:40,320
the itis tools of the ghost hunting

646
00:27:43,519 --> 00:27:42,120
trade here of course there's spirit

647
00:27:46,190 --> 00:27:43,529
boxes over there but there's there's a

648
00:27:47,690 --> 00:27:46,200
laser here that throws that throws down

649
00:27:49,789 --> 00:27:47,700
a bit of a pattern so it's not just a

650
00:27:52,340 --> 00:27:49,799
solid beam how would you describe it um

651
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:52,350
it's a it's a light beam that gives

652
00:27:58,129 --> 00:27:55,350
dispersed by a lens into a pattern which

653
00:28:00,820 --> 00:27:58,139
you can change and by twisting the low

654
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:00,830
head on at the end of the of the grid ok

655
00:28:04,570 --> 00:28:02,210
it isn't so how would you use it on a

656
00:28:06,970 --> 00:28:04,580
hunt so you'd sit in a long corridor

657
00:28:09,399 --> 00:28:06,980
long dark corridor at night and you'd

658
00:28:12,460 --> 00:28:09,409
shoot the grid down the corridor and it

659
00:28:15,490 --> 00:28:12,470
will create a grid of lights and if

660
00:28:17,919 --> 00:28:15,500
there's an anomaly or a spirit that can

661
00:28:19,330 --> 00:28:17,929
break the light it'll obviously disrupt

662
00:28:21,250 --> 00:28:19,340
the grid and so you all know that

663
00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:21,260
something is in the space with you if

664
00:28:26,529 --> 00:28:23,809
the grid of the light gets disrupted and

665
00:28:29,019 --> 00:28:26,539
also if you're taking a photo you've

666
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:29,029
actually got a pattern you've got a

667
00:28:34,990 --> 00:28:30,970
scale to see what how big it is

668
00:28:36,879 --> 00:28:35,000
absolutely yeah yeah yeah of course you

669
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:36,889
know there's always the odd rogue

670
00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:38,570
skeptic wandering around who we got here

671
00:28:44,620 --> 00:28:42,049
let's split about it Sean odd what is it

672
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:44,630
what I will I'd know you looking you got

673
00:28:47,710 --> 00:28:46,010
your loud shirt on there you're just

674
00:28:49,060 --> 00:28:47,720
hanging around now you've already but

675
00:28:50,769 --> 00:28:49,070
done a circuit here I haven't got around

676
00:28:51,940 --> 00:28:50,779
to doing the circuit yet what have you

677
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:51,950
seen that might be a little bit

678
00:28:55,060 --> 00:28:53,120
different you should send lot of these

679
00:28:57,490 --> 00:28:55,070
things over the years there's not a lot

680
00:28:59,230 --> 00:28:57,500
here that I haven't seen before what I

681
00:29:01,149 --> 00:28:59,240
do like about this show so I compared to

682
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:01,159
the mind-body-spirit festival is that

683
00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:02,090
they don't appear to be any faith

684
00:29:08,169 --> 00:29:05,809
healers here oh okay what will this type

685
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:08,179
of thing tends to be a bit of a blowout

686
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:11,110
for the ghost hunting community yes this

687
00:29:14,649 --> 00:29:13,130
deceive me fewer here than they were

688
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:14,659
last year left him to go about four or

689
00:29:18,610 --> 00:29:16,370
five ghost hunting organizations here

690
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:18,620
mmm one of whom actually said to me I

691
00:29:22,029 --> 00:29:20,450
saw you on television and I thought

692
00:29:25,149 --> 00:29:22,039
because this man must be cited that was

693
00:29:27,490 --> 00:29:25,159
years ago I very good at holding back

694
00:29:29,740 --> 00:29:27,500
you're saying anything to these people I

695
00:29:32,740 --> 00:29:29,750
actually find I had no problem with this

696
00:29:35,289 --> 00:29:32,750
sort of thing seriously uh most this

697
00:29:36,669 --> 00:29:35,299
just harmless fun hmm like that I had

698
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:36,679
trouble with the faith healers and the

699
00:29:41,169 --> 00:29:38,450
people like that but you find some other

700
00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:41,179
shows I have trouble with psychics that

701
00:29:44,710 --> 00:29:42,559
talk nonsense and there was one last

702
00:29:47,139 --> 00:29:44,720
year where I walked out of his talk when

703
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:47,149
he was contacting the spirit of somebody

704
00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:49,970
who died only about two weeks ago and we

705
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:52,159
just known as members of tears and I

706
00:29:55,049 --> 00:29:53,120
thought well that was I couldn't

707
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:55,059
couldn't put up that

708
00:29:59,279 --> 00:29:57,370
but most of it here is just pure good

709
00:30:01,860 --> 00:29:59,289
fun it's a lot of and I love crystal

710
00:30:04,350 --> 00:30:01,870
through during peak to look at and lots

711
00:30:07,230 --> 00:30:04,360
of soap and lots of wax that's right yes

712
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:07,240
and candles that smell nice yes well I

713
00:30:10,499 --> 00:30:08,559
might get along there and have a look

714
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:10,509
there and enjoy your day it's a nice day

715
00:30:14,460 --> 00:30:12,610
for it beautiful day yes okay you know

716
00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:14,470
I'm really hoping one these days i'll

717
00:30:20,430 --> 00:30:18,159
bump into Erich von Daniken well folks

718
00:30:22,980 --> 00:30:20,440
I'm at the organizing table wig I've got

719
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:22,990
lollipops and water and an ATM not too

720
00:30:26,159 --> 00:30:24,610
far away if you want to put some illegal

721
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:26,169
bits on this afternoon that's right

722
00:30:29,970 --> 00:30:27,369
that's what they express all about

723
00:30:32,159 --> 00:30:29,980
who've we got here and how's your day

724
00:30:34,019 --> 00:30:32,169
been yeah this is alex and i'm from

725
00:30:35,249 --> 00:30:34,029
ghost of Oz and park on australia and

726
00:30:38,190 --> 00:30:35,259
it's been great off to a great start

727
00:30:39,779 --> 00:30:38,200
I've got to say pero con I know it's a

728
00:30:41,460 --> 00:30:39,789
big thing to put on a difficult thing to

729
00:30:43,710 --> 00:30:41,470
put on but every time I go along I

730
00:30:45,629 --> 00:30:43,720
really enjoy it I know I mean it's not

731
00:30:47,700 --> 00:30:45,639
it's mainly because of the people you

732
00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:47,710
meet there like I really enjoyed the one

733
00:30:53,609 --> 00:30:50,399
you had with Damian not talking about

734
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:53,619
the whole UFO thing and I think Travis

735
00:30:57,269 --> 00:30:55,090
Walton was on that one was was it was

736
00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:57,279
that this year or last year so Damian

737
00:31:02,700 --> 00:30:59,440
has spoken the last two years but Travis

738
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:02,710
was 2015 year yeah it was really good I

739
00:31:06,389 --> 00:31:04,480
just and I just enjoyed the way it just

740
00:31:07,710 --> 00:31:06,399
it just took off we're all sitting in

741
00:31:09,389 --> 00:31:07,720
the room and they said okay who's had a

742
00:31:10,859 --> 00:31:09,399
close encounter of the first kind second

743
00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:10,869
kind they were wet all the way through

744
00:31:15,869 --> 00:31:13,360
the fifth kind you know and it was wild

745
00:31:18,090 --> 00:31:15,879
and and no one was going on come on it

746
00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:18,100
was just going with it yeah it's a great

747
00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:20,049
atmosphere for people just to share

748
00:31:24,239 --> 00:31:22,240
their ideas and experiences in that way

749
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:24,249
much like the gas Expo here today yeah

750
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:26,110
well like this is a bit of a blowout for

751
00:31:30,210 --> 00:31:28,330
the ghost hunting community and look

752
00:31:31,739 --> 00:31:30,220
what what's been the most exciting thing

753
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:31,749
in this year for is there something new

754
00:31:37,169 --> 00:31:35,110
on the scene yeah so this year the expo

755
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:37,179
guys they're running free workshops as

756
00:31:43,470 --> 00:31:41,529
well as well as a VIP program but have

757
00:31:45,090 --> 00:31:43,480
you checked out the VIP program because

758
00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:45,100
they've got some really cool stuff in

759
00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:47,470
there okay well I might pop in there in

760
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:49,809
a little while but yeah it's a lot of

761
00:31:52,499 --> 00:31:50,769
fun i'm going to get down there and get

762
00:31:56,060 --> 00:31:52,509
amongst it and plus if you think just

763
00:31:59,220 --> 00:31:56,070
smells so good here oh well that's me

764
00:32:01,740 --> 00:31:59,230
look and we're here with some a ghost

765
00:32:04,050 --> 00:32:01,750
hunters which group of you with

766
00:32:05,610 --> 00:32:04,060
ass I paranormal and know where you

767
00:32:09,450 --> 00:32:05,620
normally work out or what what's your

768
00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:09,460
beat so we usually do run ghost tours in

769
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:11,980
campbelltown and occasionally picked in

770
00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:14,290
as well okay that a really spooky area

771
00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:16,030
is I got a really spooky history yeah

772
00:32:19,950 --> 00:32:18,310
absolutely um both of those sounds are

773
00:32:21,630 --> 00:32:19,960
actually quite haunted and they do have

774
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:21,640
a lot of history as well a particular

775
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:23,650
campbelltown with fred fisher he's our

776
00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:25,570
one of the I guess main attractions of a

777
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:29,230
of that town yeah ok no I'm I've been

778
00:32:32,910 --> 00:32:30,910
pointed to you what's your name by the

779
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:32,920
way I'm Jessica Jessica I've been

780
00:32:37,170 --> 00:32:34,960
pointed to you because you are the EVP

781
00:32:40,260 --> 00:32:37,180
expert which stands for electronic voice

782
00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:40,270
phenomenon now I believe there's even

783
00:32:44,910 --> 00:32:42,430
classes of EVPs I was actually so you

784
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:44,920
can have an ABC or D class EVP is that

785
00:32:50,490 --> 00:32:47,440
correct yes that's right so um how's it

786
00:32:53,010 --> 00:32:50,500
work out ok so class a EVP are usually

787
00:32:54,510 --> 00:32:53,020
the sort of high quality EVPs that are

788
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:54,520
quite rare to get they're not the

789
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:56,530
easiest ones to obtain so when you do

790
00:33:00,840 --> 00:32:58,210
get them you just got to hold on to

791
00:33:02,910 --> 00:33:00,850
those ones have you ever had one yeah i

792
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:02,920
do i'm just a few there that I've got as

793
00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:06,910
an example of Class A Class A EVPs well

794
00:33:10,350 --> 00:33:09,040
yeah yes so but normally there's a lot

795
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:10,360
of white noise surrounding what you're

796
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:12,610
recording because the levels is a very

797
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:14,290
very quiet noise and levels are really

798
00:33:17,850 --> 00:33:16,210
got to be jacked up so does that make it

799
00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:17,860
difficult sometimes that would be D

800
00:33:21,510 --> 00:33:19,600
class if it's like that isn't it yeah

801
00:33:23,310 --> 00:33:21,520
absolutely so with the d-class EVP

802
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:23,320
usually I just chucked those in the bin

803
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:24,880
it's not even worth the effort if I've

804
00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:26,530
got to like push through all that noise

805
00:33:30,150 --> 00:33:28,750
and you know it's a I didn't really see

806
00:33:32,430 --> 00:33:30,160
it as worth my time and it's a little

807
00:33:34,020 --> 00:33:32,440
bit hard as well just sort of show that

808
00:33:35,310 --> 00:33:34,030
to people who are skeptics you know

809
00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:35,320
nobody's really going to be interested

810
00:33:39,690 --> 00:33:36,520
in something you've had to push so hard

811
00:33:42,090 --> 00:33:39,700
to try and bring out and how do you know

812
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:42,100
sometimes you aren't experiencing audio

813
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:43,570
para Dahlia because you're listening to

814
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:45,130
the same file over and over and over

815
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:46,930
again it might drive you a bit nutty and

816
00:33:49,650 --> 00:33:48,130
you could imagine you're hearing things

817
00:33:51,570 --> 00:33:49,660
so is it good to get other people in on

818
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:51,580
sometimes absolutely yeah so when I'm at

819
00:33:55,410 --> 00:33:53,710
home my husband he's also on the team

820
00:33:57,780 --> 00:33:55,420
and I try and get him to have a bit of a

821
00:33:59,610 --> 00:33:57,790
listen as well and afterwards I show my

822
00:34:01,650 --> 00:33:59,620
team trying to everybody's opinion

823
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:01,660
because there might be a voice or I

824
00:34:04,410 --> 00:34:02,890
might be there just tell me a little bit

825
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:04,420
weird that night so I always like to get

826
00:34:07,860 --> 00:34:06,250
a second opinion on these things

827
00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:07,870
I'm that the thing that puzzles me is

828
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:09,730
I'm not is it I guess there's anyone

829
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:12,159
given an explanation as to how the

830
00:34:16,139 --> 00:34:13,810
mechanism of this recording is happening

831
00:34:17,550 --> 00:34:16,149
or how it's being how the electronic

832
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:17,560
frequency is being manipulated from

833
00:34:25,139 --> 00:34:22,330
somewhere yes that is a little bit more

834
00:34:26,820 --> 00:34:25,149
sort of in the scientific way of things

835
00:34:28,619 --> 00:34:26,830
that my husband actually has that as a

836
00:34:30,060 --> 00:34:28,629
sort of better understanding of that

837
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:30,070
side of it than I did like the

838
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:31,929
explanation of how it works yeah yeah

839
00:34:35,879 --> 00:34:34,000
because I just wonder here if these if

840
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:35,889
these spirits are in another realm how

841
00:34:40,350 --> 00:34:37,690
do they manipulate the electromagnetic

842
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:40,360
frequency in our realm well there's the

843
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:47,659
they affect the magnetic field and

844
00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:49,200
that's how they put the voice on there

845
00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:50,879
there's that eerie there's also the

846
00:34:56,990 --> 00:34:53,359
theory that they use like a Kinesis to

847
00:34:59,510 --> 00:34:57,000
just fiddle with it afterwards they'd

848
00:35:05,060 --> 00:34:59,520
have a psychokinesis same as what a

849
00:35:07,150 --> 00:35:05,070
human would have and in the lab micro PK

850
00:35:10,460 --> 00:35:07,160
has been proven time and time again that

851
00:35:13,380 --> 00:35:10,470
macro not so much and this is more along

852
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:17,130
oh that's okay but I'm now since you've

853
00:35:19,859 --> 00:35:18,730
been doing this for a while how long

854
00:35:21,839 --> 00:35:19,869
you've been doing the ghost hunting

855
00:35:24,210 --> 00:35:21,849
action um so we've been with this team

856
00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:24,220
for about maybe almost two years now but

857
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:25,599
we've always been interested in the

858
00:35:29,279 --> 00:35:28,089
paranormal throughout our lives I've got

859
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:29,289
a bit of a parent all interest myself

860
00:35:32,759 --> 00:35:31,450
but I'm such a scaredy cat that because

861
00:35:35,730 --> 00:35:32,769
this stuff would just really freaked me

862
00:35:37,289 --> 00:35:35,740
out like a but you're working on in an

863
00:35:39,329 --> 00:35:37,299
environment where you potentially

864
00:35:41,819 --> 00:35:39,339
meeting dead people all the time yeah

865
00:35:43,769 --> 00:35:41,829
that's right and I wait liar originally

866
00:35:45,420 --> 00:35:43,779
it did scare me as well I remember one

867
00:35:47,730 --> 00:35:45,430
of my first investigations with the team

868
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:47,740
my knees were literally shaking but you

869
00:35:51,809 --> 00:35:50,049
do adapt you do learn ways to sort of I

870
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:51,819
guess spiritually protect yourself and

871
00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:53,529
you gain more confidence in that sense

872
00:35:56,819 --> 00:35:54,880
so it's a little less scary these days

873
00:35:57,809 --> 00:35:56,829
and what it used to be do you think

874
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:57,819
we've got anything to fear from these

875
00:36:02,430 --> 00:36:00,160
spirits you bumping into I don't think

876
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:02,440
we've got anything to fear more than

877
00:36:07,049 --> 00:36:05,130
what we'd have to fear from their living

878
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:07,059
well of course I've been looking around

879
00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:08,650
to try and get my aura cleanse but I

880
00:36:13,170 --> 00:36:10,569
can't get I can't see a clean or a

881
00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:13,180
sponge anywhere but I've got two people

882
00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:14,920
here that we've brought along here that

883
00:36:20,490 --> 00:36:18,160
you both have huge auras although one of

884
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:20,500
yous brighter than the others yeah

885
00:36:25,499 --> 00:36:23,650
apparently yes I'm we've got a photo of

886
00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:25,509
your or now how was that done this is a

887
00:36:29,789 --> 00:36:28,029
this is amazing yeah he didn't actually

888
00:36:30,990 --> 00:36:29,799
tell us how it was done it just seemed

889
00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:31,000
to be a normal camera was some sort of

890
00:36:34,829 --> 00:36:32,529
attachment on it we also had to put on

891
00:36:37,529 --> 00:36:34,839
hand on I don't even know what it was

892
00:36:39,569 --> 00:36:37,539
but it had little metal plates on it um

893
00:36:40,799 --> 00:36:39,579
and yeah mine wasn't working at first

894
00:36:41,999 --> 00:36:40,809
had to take my hand back off and then

895
00:36:45,029 --> 00:36:42,009
put it back on again and then this photo

896
00:36:48,420 --> 00:36:45,039
just appeared on the screen and did you

897
00:36:50,490 --> 00:36:48,430
get any reading about your order I I'd

898
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:50,500
say the accuracy kind of fell on a

899
00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:52,480
normal curve some you know some things

900
00:36:55,620 --> 00:36:53,920
in the center just average true of

901
00:36:56,779 --> 00:36:55,630
everyone some things are pretty spot on

902
00:36:59,400 --> 00:36:56,789
and some things with that were

903
00:37:01,200 --> 00:36:59,410
hilariously off base so that was pretty

904
00:37:03,450 --> 00:37:01,210
fun so did they kick it off with a good

905
00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:03,460
starter or did they say something really

906
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:04,750
like you actually a man or something

907
00:37:13,799 --> 00:37:11,819
I sensor you actually met no no no

908
00:37:15,959 --> 00:37:13,809
weren't reaching too far all you know a

909
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:15,969
lot of is it Barnum statements that's

910
00:37:19,319 --> 00:37:17,410
true of everybody yes Barnum statements

911
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:19,329
thank you that's what it was and how do

912
00:37:22,469 --> 00:37:20,650
you reckon the colors difference between

913
00:37:24,329 --> 00:37:22,479
you like your auras really read yours is

914
00:37:26,249 --> 00:37:24,339
kind of a bit of a Paley mine's kind of

915
00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:26,259
ready orange apparently it means I'm

916
00:37:29,819 --> 00:37:27,880
very physical which is totally not true

917
00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:29,829
anyone who knows me knows that I am so

918
00:37:36,269 --> 00:37:34,209
lazy so yeah that one not so much okay

919
00:37:38,789 --> 00:37:36,279
and how does your reading stack up

920
00:37:42,179 --> 00:37:38,799
accuracy was I thought it was pretty

921
00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:42,189
accurate um again I got the red as well

922
00:37:45,329 --> 00:37:43,599
so the physical and energetic thing

923
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:45,339
which is again not like me but other

924
00:37:48,779 --> 00:37:47,410
things he was saying like he started

925
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:48,789
mentioning stuff to do with love life

926
00:37:51,870 --> 00:37:50,410
that ended up to be quite accurate as

927
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:51,880
well I was trying very hard not to give

928
00:37:55,499 --> 00:37:53,920
him anything from my end but he does

929
00:37:56,910 --> 00:37:55,509
then ask a couple of direct questions so

930
00:37:57,929 --> 00:37:56,920
I had to sort of answer them but yeah I

931
00:37:59,880 --> 00:37:57,939
thought it was pretty accurate it's

932
00:38:02,789 --> 00:37:59,890
pretty good and then how much is an aura

933
00:38:04,589 --> 00:38:02,799
reading in this 2016 marketplace that

934
00:38:05,969 --> 00:38:04,599
was forty dollars you could you could

935
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:05,979
get the check for reading as well which

936
00:38:12,029 --> 00:38:08,650
was seventy dollars Wow okay I'm a cheap

937
00:38:13,439 --> 00:38:12,039
one so do you think it was forty dollars

938
00:38:17,370 --> 00:38:13,449
worth of fun or a little bit overvalued

939
00:38:19,529 --> 00:38:17,380
um forty dollars one time sure not gonna

940
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:19,539
go for it again I gotta say I've got my

941
00:38:24,329 --> 00:38:21,910
one picture I'm good for now good no

942
00:38:27,059 --> 00:38:24,339
look it is a psychic lollipop it's a

943
00:38:28,620 --> 00:38:27,069
ghost hunting lollipop now the

944
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:28,630
apparently the UFO people are upstairs

945
00:38:32,489 --> 00:38:30,249
we walked right past them Richard they

946
00:38:34,979 --> 00:38:32,499
don't have a sign sure we go and check

947
00:38:36,779 --> 00:38:34,989
out the UFO I think I will get and it

948
00:38:37,769 --> 00:38:36,789
the table has no sign it's a whole bunch

949
00:38:42,589 --> 00:38:37,779
of people looking at their laptops

950
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:45,019
Oh Lorraine silly around the president

951
00:38:50,839 --> 00:38:47,130
of the UFO and paranormal research

952
00:38:53,029 --> 00:38:50,849
society here in campbelltown doodool our

953
00:38:56,599 --> 00:38:53,039
sky watching yourself or not yes we do

954
00:38:59,479 --> 00:38:56,609
herself and our members and as you can

955
00:39:02,989 --> 00:38:59,489
see it's pretty much a hot spot in the

956
00:39:04,370 --> 00:39:02,999
candle town area yes um and is there a

957
00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:04,380
particular time of year that's really

958
00:39:08,420 --> 00:39:06,900
good as like summer not a good time to

959
00:39:09,859 --> 00:39:08,430
be looking as a mainly winter that's a

960
00:39:11,930 --> 00:39:09,869
good time for looking at for anomalies

961
00:39:14,839 --> 00:39:11,940
in the sky no I wouldn't say there's any

962
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:14,849
particularly good time we have members

963
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:17,609
of the group that photograph and video

964
00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:21,529
UFOs and identified flying objects not

965
00:39:26,059 --> 00:39:23,910
spacecraft hmmm oh look I guess I'm oh

966
00:39:28,519 --> 00:39:26,069
I'm glad you made that but yes just

967
00:39:30,049 --> 00:39:28,529
because just because a item can't be

968
00:39:32,109 --> 00:39:30,059
explained well that that's where you

969
00:39:35,359 --> 00:39:32,119
have to leave it really isn't it yes yes

970
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:35,369
yes so people actually call you and they

971
00:39:39,950 --> 00:39:37,410
report things to you and and if you can

972
00:39:41,479 --> 00:39:39,960
you try and see what it is I don't know

973
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:41,489
that was a helicopter although that was

974
00:39:45,140 --> 00:39:42,720
that all no we don't know what that is

975
00:39:47,569 --> 00:39:45,150
that's the first port of call is to

976
00:39:50,690 --> 00:39:47,579
actually try and find out what they saw

977
00:39:56,029 --> 00:39:50,700
and whether it's a meteorite or a plane

978
00:40:00,920 --> 00:39:56,039
or a helicopter and then when we can't

979
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:00,930
find what it is then X EU wafer now now

980
00:40:03,739 --> 00:40:02,249
whatever one wandering around with

981
00:40:06,410 --> 00:40:03,749
phones in their pocket says this

982
00:40:07,999 --> 00:40:06,420
increase the quality of the photos or a

983
00:40:09,769 --> 00:40:08,009
just getting a lot more blurry light

984
00:40:12,469 --> 00:40:09,779
photos now because everyone's got a

985
00:40:15,709 --> 00:40:12,479
phone yeah unfortunately there are a lot

986
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:15,719
more glaring like photos with the mobile

987
00:40:24,109 --> 00:40:19,170
phones but also the quality of cameras

988
00:40:27,140 --> 00:40:24,119
and infrared and night vision cameras is

989
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:27,150
much better nowadays so there are a lot

990
00:40:33,019 --> 00:40:31,049
better quality photos all right look can

991
00:40:34,940 --> 00:40:33,029
I have a chat to you for our podcast so

992
00:40:38,810 --> 00:40:34,950
that's all wrong they say

993
00:40:42,650 --> 00:40:38,820
look I'm just looking at it looks like

994
00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:42,660
kind of a kind of a it looks a little

995
00:40:46,460 --> 00:40:44,640
bit like it it could be a coffin full of

996
00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:46,470
rocks but it's much more than that in

997
00:40:50,930 --> 00:40:48,990
front of me yeah yes please explain what

998
00:40:53,540 --> 00:40:50,940
we've got here so we have a crystal bed

999
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:53,550
healing right so what you've got here is

1000
00:40:57,470 --> 00:40:55,410
each section lines up with a chakra

1001
00:40:59,810 --> 00:40:57,480
point in the body I can see rose quartz

1002
00:41:02,450 --> 00:40:59,820
yes rose quartz amethyst and clear does

1003
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:02,460
your crown chakra it's very gentle and

1004
00:41:07,370 --> 00:41:05,010
very harmonious and how comfortable is

1005
00:41:08,780 --> 00:41:07,380
it lying on crystals oh it's actually

1006
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:08,790
quite comfortable because they actually

1007
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:10,800
sing underneath yeah this is just for

1008
00:41:15,470 --> 00:41:12,960
display we don't people putting your

1009
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:15,480
dirty hands on so it's black velvet yes

1010
00:41:19,940 --> 00:41:18,450
black velvet yeah okay so um how do you

1011
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:19,950
stop the rocks sort of falling out in

1012
00:41:24,290 --> 00:41:21,570
the floor and getting vacuumed up well

1013
00:41:27,890 --> 00:41:24,300
there's a base on the bottom okay

1014
00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:27,900
there's a hard base underneath yes and

1015
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:29,849
can we just go through a shock was again

1016
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:31,650
and why these crystals are for these

1017
00:41:36,380 --> 00:41:34,170
chakras okay so you've got amethyst rose

1018
00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:36,390
quartz and clear for your crown it's a

1019
00:41:40,849 --> 00:41:38,070
really great combination to do it very

1020
00:41:43,339 --> 00:41:40,859
gently all right and you've got flu

1021
00:41:45,230 --> 00:41:43,349
rides for your third eye that's a very

1022
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:45,240
good stone to actually open it up and

1023
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:48,960
connect with ensuring intuition lapis is

1024
00:41:52,430 --> 00:41:50,490
actually fantastic for your throat

1025
00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:52,440
chakra because i unblock throat and

1026
00:41:57,890 --> 00:41:56,310
lets you express yourself all right so

1027
00:42:00,079 --> 00:41:57,900
malachite is actually wonderful your

1028
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:00,089
heart chakra because anything brains

1029
00:42:03,410 --> 00:42:01,650
usually really good for your heart and

1030
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:03,420
it opens it up and opens you up

1031
00:42:09,790 --> 00:42:06,450
emotionally then you have citroen which

1032
00:42:12,770 --> 00:42:09,800
is really really good three solar plexus

1033
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:12,780
alright so these two colors are quite

1034
00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:14,640
similar they're very close in the body

1035
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:16,710
so you've also got your sacral chakra

1036
00:42:24,580 --> 00:42:20,330
and that is actually orange citrine

1037
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:24,590
okay and then you've got red jasper for

1038
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:27,110
your root chakra okay I've never seen

1039
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:28,610
that before you've never seen red jasper

1040
00:42:36,250 --> 00:42:31,910
it's actually quite common okay and it's

1041
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:36,260
actually quite a grounding stone and

1042
00:42:40,570 --> 00:42:37,930
then you've got hematite for your feet

1043
00:42:42,670 --> 00:42:40,580
okay so is anything good for the knees

1044
00:42:44,050 --> 00:42:42,680
as hematite than these two you can use

1045
00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:44,060
it for knees but you actually put your

1046
00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:49,280
feet in that to ground just normal yeah

1047
00:42:54,970 --> 00:42:52,400
okay and how many people do nota they've

1048
00:42:57,490 --> 00:42:54,980
got one of these at home no one oh wow

1049
00:42:59,470 --> 00:42:57,500
okay cuz this is pretty special it's

1050
00:43:02,200 --> 00:42:59,480
custom-made my husband actually made it

1051
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:02,210
for me am I sure I showed him what I

1052
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:04,250
wanted and he's talented enough to be

1053
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:06,530
able to make it that's great must be

1054
00:43:09,250 --> 00:43:07,370
getting a little interesting because

1055
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:09,260
it's the DS lovely and soft earth very

1056
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:13,850
lovely and soft and very special we're

1057
00:43:16,570 --> 00:43:15,200
right in the middle of the paranormal

1058
00:43:18,730 --> 00:43:16,580
Expo here I've been wandering around

1059
00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:18,740
just had a lovely chat to someone about

1060
00:43:23,020 --> 00:43:21,200
crystals and chakras and things like

1061
00:43:25,450 --> 00:43:23,030
that and I believe you offered them the

1062
00:43:26,770 --> 00:43:25,460
skeptics prize i Richard yeah it was

1063
00:43:28,540 --> 00:43:26,780
interesting before we did the interview

1064
00:43:29,650 --> 00:43:28,550
I gave them a skeptic zone card and they

1065
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:29,660
just looked at it and laughed it was

1066
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:32,570
just um use meant to them they couldn't

1067
00:43:36,460 --> 00:43:35,210
believe it on ironically enough and then

1068
00:43:38,350 --> 00:43:36,470
after they told you all about the

1069
00:43:40,330 --> 00:43:38,360
crystal bed I gave them a skeptics

1070
00:43:42,010 --> 00:43:40,340
$100,000 challenge I said if anything

1071
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:42,020
you tell me just now or you told my now

1072
00:43:46,050 --> 00:43:44,240
you can prove you get a hundred thousand

1073
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:46,060
dollars but it's just complete

1074
00:43:50,380 --> 00:43:48,410
disconnect they can't understand it they

1075
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:50,390
can't understand it look I imagine like

1076
00:43:55,570 --> 00:43:52,970
I like a lot of people do that they view

1077
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:55,580
skeptics as being debunkers and poo poo

1078
00:44:00,250 --> 00:43:58,640
is in kind of negative folk I'm sure

1079
00:44:05,260 --> 00:44:00,260
you're right but it's also coupled with

1080
00:44:07,420 --> 00:44:05,270
the fact to them a chakra is just as

1081
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:07,430
real as well the microphone you're using

1082
00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:10,610
now is to us it's part of reality so for

1083
00:44:15,820 --> 00:44:12,800
someone to come along and say I don't

1084
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:15,830
think it's real at all is simply almost

1085
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:17,290
incomprehensible

1086
00:44:22,620 --> 00:44:20,110
well it's very spiritual here today it

1087
00:44:24,750 --> 00:44:22,630
like but not in a religious way like

1088
00:44:27,210 --> 00:44:24,760
there's lots of people feeling about

1089
00:44:29,070 --> 00:44:27,220
their vibrations and and and talking

1090
00:44:31,410 --> 00:44:29,080
about things that you can't quite put

1091
00:44:33,180 --> 00:44:31,420
your finger on yeah I always wonder

1092
00:44:35,490 --> 00:44:33,190
about the word spiritual I just think it

1093
00:44:37,530 --> 00:44:35,500
just means emotional as the closest I

1094
00:44:39,180 --> 00:44:37,540
can come do it people oh this is a very

1095
00:44:40,530 --> 00:44:39,190
spiritual person I mean what they have

1096
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:40,540
strong emotions about things that's

1097
00:44:44,370 --> 00:44:42,250
about as close as I can come to it but

1098
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:44,380
it is that it is an emotion because as

1099
00:44:48,510 --> 00:44:46,450
Carl Sagan said you can get a spiritual

1100
00:44:50,190 --> 00:44:48,520
feeling looking at the sky at night you

1101
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:50,200
know it's at the profoundness but it's

1102
00:44:54,570 --> 00:44:52,330
just an emotional look I was having a

1103
00:44:57,390 --> 00:44:54,580
good chat to the UFO paranormal

1104
00:44:59,700 --> 00:44:57,400
phenomenon people upstairs and she's

1105
00:45:01,470 --> 00:44:59,710
she's actually had one very good

1106
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:01,480
sighting of a UFO and she actually

1107
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:03,610
described it as a year as a spiritual

1108
00:45:07,590 --> 00:45:05,290
thing that the way it glowed and moved

1109
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:07,600
through the air so you can get all sorts

1110
00:45:11,940 --> 00:45:10,000
of emotions stirred up by anomalies yeah

1111
00:45:14,670 --> 00:45:11,950
I'm sure they'd sure that it does I'm

1112
00:45:16,770 --> 00:45:14,680
sure it does i get a spiritual feeling

1113
00:45:19,050 --> 00:45:16,780
looking at a nice glass of champagne at

1114
00:45:21,210 --> 00:45:19,060
skeptics in the pub look and they were

1115
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:21,220
in there being told about the amityville

1116
00:45:25,260 --> 00:45:23,530
horror and things like that and i had

1117
00:45:28,020 --> 00:45:25,270
your pooh-poohing face on your poo

1118
00:45:29,820 --> 00:45:28,030
pooing face i could see you going poopoo

1119
00:45:32,250 --> 00:45:29,830
Vince I'd Richard yeah we just heard

1120
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:32,260
about a lot of cases of supposed ghosts

1121
00:45:36,420 --> 00:45:34,000
helping to solve their own crimes and

1122
00:45:37,980 --> 00:45:36,430
there was some it was interesting but a

1123
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:37,990
little hard to sit through and I got

1124
00:45:41,370 --> 00:45:40,210
really excited cuz cuz i was i was half

1125
00:45:43,410 --> 00:45:41,380
listening and reading about a really

1126
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:43,420
exciting UFO case on on the phenomenon

1127
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:45,520
website and then they was she was

1128
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:47,110
talking about foots being washed up and

1129
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:50,290
i got it she mentioned Newcastle yes and

1130
00:45:54,210 --> 00:45:52,330
I got really excited I was really hoping

1131
00:45:56,730 --> 00:45:54,220
that feet had been started to get washed

1132
00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:56,740
up in Australia and then it was the

1133
00:45:59,550 --> 00:45:58,240
Canada one so I got very disappointed

1134
00:46:00,960 --> 00:45:59,560
cuz i was going to run right out and

1135
00:46:02,730 --> 00:46:00,970
start looking for people's right foot

1136
00:46:03,570 --> 00:46:02,740
what that because if the lifter they go

1137
00:46:05,490 --> 00:46:03,580
to the rightful it's going to be

1138
00:46:09,390 --> 00:46:05,500
somewhere there was all these pictures

1139
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:09,400
of amputated feet in the decomposing

1140
00:46:13,770 --> 00:46:12,010
yeah I don't and she said the police are

1141
00:46:15,420 --> 00:46:13,780
stumped and I think we'll police aren't

1142
00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:15,430
the only one who was stumped haha you

1143
00:46:19,530 --> 00:46:17,710
you just poo pooing now over here we've

1144
00:46:22,020 --> 00:46:19,540
got color readings now how does that

1145
00:46:23,010 --> 00:46:22,030
work I'm a mogul that she's been busy

1146
00:46:25,650 --> 00:46:23,020
all day

1147
00:46:28,110 --> 00:46:25,660
are doing readings to people is it just

1148
00:46:29,790 --> 00:46:28,120
another method of doing a cold read kind

1149
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:29,800
of thing oh yeah it's a problem okay

1150
00:46:34,980 --> 00:46:32,890
tarot cards astrology crystals space

1151
00:46:36,810 --> 00:46:34,990
sweetie it's just the prop and then it's

1152
00:46:40,020 --> 00:46:36,820
a prop for cold reading yeah it's it's

1153
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:40,030
it's nerdy mundane and that is about 20

1154
00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:45,040
or so psychics upstairs in two different

1155
00:46:49,050 --> 00:46:47,110
rooms and have you seen the people

1156
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:49,060
lining up on that day everybody looks

1157
00:46:53,070 --> 00:46:51,370
very serious I did we were up there

1158
00:46:55,740 --> 00:46:53,080
earlier when we're looking for the UFO

1159
00:46:57,150 --> 00:46:55,750
table and they're very very serious all

1160
00:46:58,530 --> 00:46:57,160
they're worried or their yeah its

1161
00:47:00,180 --> 00:46:58,540
interests and that's why you aren't

1162
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:00,190
hearing those people on the show because

1163
00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:02,170
I find it when I interview the people

1164
00:47:04,980 --> 00:47:03,520
that are lining up to get psychic

1165
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:04,990
readings that people they're normally

1166
00:47:08,670 --> 00:47:06,490
looking for an answer for something so

1167
00:47:11,070 --> 00:47:08,680
there it's kind of serious for them so I

1168
00:47:12,750 --> 00:47:11,080
don't like to even ask them and intrude

1169
00:47:14,250 --> 00:47:12,760
on the privacy I think that's very wise

1170
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:14,260
that's fine if they want to get come

1171
00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:16,210
here for a psychic reading then but

1172
00:47:20,460 --> 00:47:18,550
that's their affair I guess mm-hmm now

1173
00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:20,470
is there anything you haven't seen

1174
00:47:26,850 --> 00:47:25,030
before Richard oh good question no no

1175
00:47:29,490 --> 00:47:26,860
we've had a good look around and I think

1176
00:47:32,220 --> 00:47:29,500
I've seen it all before or variations of

1177
00:47:33,660 --> 00:47:32,230
it but there it's a fun day it is well

1178
00:47:36,030 --> 00:47:33,670
you've got that laser to play for the

1179
00:47:39,540 --> 00:47:36,040
cat now I do I bought a new laser which

1180
00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:39,550
is a multi-beam sort of laser which

1181
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:42,070
makes dots and it fires out a grid so if

1182
00:47:44,730 --> 00:47:43,450
something's moving within a space you

1183
00:47:46,350 --> 00:47:44,740
can you've got some photographic

1184
00:47:47,580 --> 00:47:46,360
evidence of what size it is the only

1185
00:47:50,430 --> 00:47:47,590
thing that's going to be moving in front

1186
00:47:53,310 --> 00:47:50,440
of that laser is a Henrietta and Maude I

1187
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:53,320
think like I'm talking to the person who

1188
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:54,970
organizes everything and they're the

1189
00:47:58,860 --> 00:47:56,800
spreaker they're the sprue kerr they're

1190
00:48:01,440 --> 00:47:58,870
the editor they're doing security who we

1191
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:01,450
got here we've got Pete banks how has

1192
00:48:04,770 --> 00:48:02,650
today been how's it compared to last

1193
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:04,780
year oh it's it's good it's good about

1194
00:48:08,460 --> 00:48:06,640
the same it's um a lot different in the

1195
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:08,470
format that we've put on this year we

1196
00:48:12,810 --> 00:48:11,200
have free workshops of people so anybody

1197
00:48:14,340 --> 00:48:12,820
who pays their five dollar entry can

1198
00:48:15,570 --> 00:48:14,350
attend all different kinds of workshops

1199
00:48:17,970 --> 00:48:15,580
for throughout the day we've also

1200
00:48:20,310 --> 00:48:17,980
expanded to the outside and who is the

1201
00:48:21,810 --> 00:48:20,320
Manila who is the big rock star of the

1202
00:48:23,430 --> 00:48:21,820
ghost hunting world at the moment in

1203
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:23,440
this country

1204
00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:26,410
oh look at I think we have one it's

1205
00:48:31,020 --> 00:48:27,849
kinda like that they need a big TV show

1206
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:31,030
anything well they do yeah yeah there

1207
00:48:37,140 --> 00:48:33,040
isn't really an Australian like ghost

1208
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:37,150
hunters kind of thing there was haunting

1209
00:48:41,099 --> 00:48:38,800
Australia but that was only one season

1210
00:48:43,230 --> 00:48:41,109
and there's been a few little things

1211
00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:43,240
throughout the years but ya know there

1212
00:48:48,059 --> 00:48:45,520
is no let's say I'm the big rock star

1213
00:48:50,730 --> 00:48:48,069
behind I think you are you are indeed

1214
00:48:51,870 --> 00:48:50,740
yet everything absolutely yeah yeah yeah

1215
00:48:52,859 --> 00:48:51,880
look and speaking of that you probably

1216
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:52,869
ought to go off and make an announcement

1217
00:48:56,730 --> 00:48:54,910
again and have a good day and I'm glad

1218
00:48:58,770 --> 00:48:56,740
it's beautiful weather for it I know

1219
00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:58,780
thank God yeah we're standing next to

1220
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:01,119
the Big Chief pipe we are we are because

1221
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:03,520
she lurched of pipe that's it that's

1222
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:08,530
right I was a lot of happy smiling faces

1223
00:49:13,740 --> 00:49:10,720
here in the car because we had a big day

1224
00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:13,750
at the paranormal expert kuchulu we've

1225
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:15,790
we've just departed to where the world's

1226
00:49:20,579 --> 00:49:18,160
biggest chief pipe is just the side of

1227
00:49:22,349 --> 00:49:20,589
the Casilla powerhouse there and we've

1228
00:49:25,530 --> 00:49:22,359
all had a good day now what what's been

1229
00:49:27,710 --> 00:49:25,540
your favorite part of the day Oh getting

1230
00:49:30,329 --> 00:49:27,720
the aura photography that's pretty great

1231
00:49:33,089 --> 00:49:30,339
and as you said earlier it was pretty

1232
00:49:34,890 --> 00:49:33,099
much fifty percent wrong yep pretty

1233
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:34,900
pretty much on average some stuff that

1234
00:49:39,690 --> 00:49:37,359
was on the mark but mostly it just felt

1235
00:49:41,069 --> 00:49:39,700
like he was kind of you know throwing

1236
00:49:43,410 --> 00:49:41,079
out things and hoping some of them are

1237
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:43,420
gonna hit oh ok what's that's my theory

1238
00:49:47,579 --> 00:49:45,609
of dating but yes I don't know if it

1239
00:49:49,650 --> 00:49:47,589
works actually for though also probably

1240
00:49:51,870 --> 00:49:49,660
does work for readings as well what was

1241
00:49:54,089 --> 00:49:51,880
your favourite bit of the day mine was

1242
00:49:56,339 --> 00:49:54,099
the same unfortunately I very much

1243
00:49:57,780 --> 00:49:56,349
enjoyed that very much being in enjoy

1244
00:50:00,450 --> 00:49:57,790
being told that my checkers were the

1245
00:50:02,190 --> 00:50:00,460
best that he's seen all day um yeah and

1246
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:02,200
I think mine was more accurate mine was

1247
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:03,760
a more accurate reading yeah things

1248
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:05,410
trying to butter you up by to get the

1249
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:07,810
praising your chakra quite possibly yet

1250
00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:09,760
I had I did tell him that I just ended a

1251
00:50:15,690 --> 00:50:12,670
relationship so yeah so did that affect

1252
00:50:16,829 --> 00:50:15,700
the chakra at all I'm the checker thing

1253
00:50:18,210 --> 00:50:16,839
was at the start that was actually quite

1254
00:50:19,269 --> 00:50:18,220
needy and I was being quite careful not

1255
00:50:21,609 --> 00:50:19,279
to give him away

1256
00:50:23,049 --> 00:50:21,619
not to give him information yeah C maybe

1257
00:50:24,189 --> 00:50:23,059
you know when going through the

1258
00:50:25,630 --> 00:50:24,199
difficulties of the end of a

1259
00:50:27,789 --> 00:50:25,640
relationship surely your chakras

1260
00:50:30,969 --> 00:50:27,799
wouldn't be doing so well but maybe

1261
00:50:32,620 --> 00:50:30,979
maybe this means it's right for you yeah

1262
00:50:34,419 --> 00:50:32,630
he said it was energy that I can be

1263
00:50:38,620 --> 00:50:34,429
using to change my life for the better

1264
00:50:40,809 --> 00:50:38,630
so energy available there to use okay

1265
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:40,819
but but he said that after you'd given

1266
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:46,130
the relationship information um yes yeah

1267
00:50:50,279 --> 00:50:48,079
I'm just remember that's a post diction

1268
00:50:52,899 --> 00:50:50,289
not a prediction yes yes that is correct

1269
00:50:54,279 --> 00:50:52,909
okay well this is something you really

1270
00:50:55,390 --> 00:50:54,289
expected to see there that you have

1271
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:55,400
missed out on is there something you

1272
00:51:00,489 --> 00:50:58,400
really hope to see I like the the color

1273
00:51:02,829 --> 00:51:00,499
readings where the woman who was doing

1274
00:51:04,929 --> 00:51:02,839
the color readings by figuring out what

1275
00:51:08,769 --> 00:51:04,939
colors you into she could tell your

1276
00:51:10,569 --> 00:51:08,779
future using colors no I don't think

1277
00:51:12,489 --> 00:51:10,579
there was anything else no there was

1278
00:51:14,409 --> 00:51:12,499
that the color eating thing I'm I was

1279
00:51:15,309 --> 00:51:14,419
kind of interested in having a guy that

1280
00:51:16,509 --> 00:51:15,319
though because we'd already done the

1281
00:51:17,769 --> 00:51:16,519
aura thing i thought i'll give it a miss

1282
00:51:20,919 --> 00:51:17,779
this time but what was it about the

1283
00:51:23,049 --> 00:51:20,929
green oh yes having a pretty early oh

1284
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:23,059
yeah so she was talking about the

1285
00:51:26,589 --> 00:51:25,249
different bottles and how they have

1286
00:51:29,109 --> 00:51:26,599
different colors in them and you rub

1287
00:51:30,399 --> 00:51:29,119
them onto your person but use them for

1288
00:51:33,099 --> 00:51:30,409
different things so if you are having an

1289
00:51:35,229 --> 00:51:33,109
i quote green related problems you would

1290
00:51:37,659 --> 00:51:35,239
use one of the green color solutions and

1291
00:51:46,209 --> 00:51:37,669
we just came away thinking what a green

1292
00:51:50,439 --> 00:51:46,219
related yeah I'm gardening um and and if

1293
00:51:52,809 --> 00:51:50,449
if you do if you think you have a gram

1294
00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:52,819
related problem and you use the green

1295
00:51:58,179 --> 00:51:54,559
lotion and you've actually got a blue

1296
00:52:00,519 --> 00:51:58,189
related problem what happens and what if

1297
00:52:02,589 --> 00:52:00,529
you're colorblind exactly little stuff

1298
00:52:04,359 --> 00:52:02,599
in questions we should have asked yeah

1299
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:04,369
the only thing I was disappointed was

1300
00:52:07,539 --> 00:52:06,169
that there weren't more skywatchers II

1301
00:52:08,979 --> 00:52:07,549
because it was two or three groups last

1302
00:52:11,019 --> 00:52:08,989
time there was only one there this time

1303
00:52:13,359 --> 00:52:11,029
but I had a good chat and I learned

1304
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:13,369
about a very famous UFO case called the

1305
00:52:19,689 --> 00:52:15,890
all thing to know that case I think

1306
00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:19,699
which has five minutes of film multiple

1307
00:52:23,949 --> 00:52:22,609
witnesses and it happened in 1999's and

1308
00:52:25,659 --> 00:52:23,959
I was reading up on that so read up

1309
00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:25,669
right up on the novak case people see

1310
00:52:29,530 --> 00:52:27,680
what you think and Richard where

1311
00:52:31,150 --> 00:52:29,540
did you fit with these things I you did

1312
00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:31,160
have your poopoo face on like I said

1313
00:52:35,650 --> 00:52:33,920
during the Amityville Horror Story that

1314
00:52:38,799 --> 00:52:35,660
was being told there but you didn't say

1315
00:52:40,089 --> 00:52:38,809
anything you didn't get up and pull your

1316
00:52:41,470 --> 00:52:40,099
jacket over your head and walk out

1317
00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:41,480
backwards like I've seen you do it some

1318
00:52:46,420 --> 00:52:44,329
of these things I didn't but Lara caught

1319
00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:46,430
me out i actually had the laugh once and

1320
00:52:51,130 --> 00:52:48,559
i tried to disguise it as a sneeze

1321
00:52:53,980 --> 00:52:51,140
actually okay and what was actually said

1322
00:52:56,500 --> 00:52:53,990
that that made you go all that get under

1323
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:56,510
the house I'm can't run be the exact bit

1324
00:53:01,420 --> 00:52:57,770
but it was when she was saying that she

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only writes true true stuff not fiction

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that's right so maybe up maybe it was

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just a a coffin up and sneeze well

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anyway people I've had a lot of fun

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despite Richard boo booing and how many

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hundred thousand dollar challenger

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checks did you give out today Richard

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only one to the through the chakra bed

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lady look but she would say she was

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having none Eon negativity gotta say I

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saw lots of rocks ahead and so I'm still

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a fan rose quartz but can't seem to get

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past it each to his own may not yeah

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people see me and they go he's a rose

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quartz kind of guy well onwards and

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upwards as we head off in the one of the

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high on dive truth into the sunset now

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and thank you all and of course you're

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hey svenska skeptical the vet vet at

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Veterans Court building in the boy talk

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none hanger of the skeptic zone that an

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ox 0 alpha alpha dog poop science quiz

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or skeptic at cafe on thomasville Queen

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Povey very pumped for Punta safe at

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spawning vivaro you like our local

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training a hunter molanda Top Gun warm

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to install that on the fence non-local

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Fanning buffin to start I'm 12 your pot

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on a day is new hello all skeptics in

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Sweden I'm sure you already know that

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the Swedish skeptics Association not

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only is a big fan of the skeptic zone

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but that we also organize lectures pop

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science quiz and skeptics in the pub all

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over the country go to ww vo ftse to see

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what are seven local chapters are up to

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and if you live in a place where there

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is no local chapter why not start on

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thank you for listening to the skeptic

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zone now now those people in Sydney

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please come along and be part of the fun

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the Occidental hotel Thursday October

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the 6th starting at six o'clock for the

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skeptic zone live join me and Maynard

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and lots of skeptic zone reporters for a

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live taping of the show prize giveaways

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prize giveaways on the night we have

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some books courtesy of Alan on one to

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give away I think we've got some tickets

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to give away two upcoming shows and

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things like that and our special guests

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will be none other then dr. Brad makhaya

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from embarrassing bodies down under also

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a member of the skeptics will be

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chatting to may not about the recent

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Burning Man festival for more

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information head to meetup.com / aust

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skeptics and the event will be at the

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Occidental hotel which is 43 York Street

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00:56:14,020 --> 00:56:11,240
and for those people in Sydney that's

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just behind winded train station entry

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is free but if you put your name down at

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meetup will now you're coming along but

1388
00:56:22,420 --> 00:56:20,480
bring some friends anyway now if you

1389
00:56:25,660 --> 00:56:22,430
need another fix if you need another

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podcasting fix head over to Maynard calm

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00:56:30,750 --> 00:56:28,610
day you and subscribe to Maenads podcast

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00:56:34,510 --> 00:56:30,760
planet Maynard which includes of course

1393
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bunga bunga the podcast he does with Tim

1394
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:36,800
Ferguson but all sorts of other things

1395
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:38,960
too it's a little bit random is that

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00:56:43,150 --> 00:56:40,400
it's a little bit of a surprise every

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week to see what comes out from Planet

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Maynard we have behind the scenes with

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the spin out which is the recent hit

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movie here in Australia we've got

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interviews with other djs what double J

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00:56:57,310 --> 00:56:54,260
should sound like of course news about

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that and much more yeah Maynard calm

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down a you if you're not subscribed

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please do so and people like Maynard

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00:57:07,810 --> 00:57:05,300
really really get a good a nice warm

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feeling when they eat hot food paid for

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by a patreon who so put podcasts don't

1409
00:57:18,010 --> 00:57:14,750
be shy don't be shy good old main ideas

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may not come today you for lots more in

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fact just between you and me I've heard

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00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:22,550
lately Maynard has dug up a lot of

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00:57:30,370 --> 00:57:25,609
archival stuff he's done over the years

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00:57:31,779 --> 00:57:30,380
he's uh he's been baking tapes no don't

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00:57:33,819 --> 00:57:31,789
send the police around I think it's

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00:57:36,460 --> 00:57:33,829
completely legal he's been baking old

1417
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:36,470
audiotapes to bring them back to life

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00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:38,450
but I'm sure Maynard will tell us more

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00:57:41,950 --> 00:57:40,400
about that in the coming weeks I think

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00:57:46,059 --> 00:57:41,960
he might even mention it at the live

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show but for this week until we see many

1422
00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:48,109
of you I hope at the live show in a few

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00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:50,809
days time and the rest of you will hear

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00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:52,730
it on the podcast this is Richard

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00:58:01,599 --> 00:57:55,249
Saunders signing off from Sydney

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00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:01,609
Australia you've been listening to the

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